Conference Call Notes From May 10

As part of many gathering participants response to COVID-19, there have been conference calls taking place alternating nights at 6 PM West Coast Time / 9 PM East Coast Time.

Discussions include to gather or not to gather, how to hold spring council, and other things as well.

If you want to be join, the next one takes place on May 20 and then every other night from there.

Dial 425-436-6350  access code 377587#.   This is a toll call if your dialing from a phone that charges by the minute.

Thanks to a anonymous person for taking notes. If you want all the details, you'll need to join in the fun.

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Rainbow Family Circle Convo Call # 29 5/10/20  

These notes are taken from the call:

Check-ins:

I am tired. And taking lots of naps

Yes, we are exerting a tremendous amount of energy into this.

If you gotta nap, nap.

Moderator: For those of you just coming on the call.

!. If you would like to speak, please say your name, when you are done speaking please repeat your name with something like “out” – so we know you are done!

2. Check in – how are you doing?  What do you need?

3. We will be stacking speakers after the check-ins and the moderator will help with the flow.  Just tell them your name.

Wow, 20 people already.

So, who is there….

I am not really comfortable talking on the phone like this. 

The people that want to go ahead with this see this as a war on freedom, but it is not, it is a war on a virus. The fringe has hijacked a protest in Michigan – bringing their swastikas, and hate.

There are certain responsibilities that come with a rainbow – trash Liaison, medical, water, -- the little crew will – to me, it is super disrespectful. If they do this little council, or what eve they will call it – I may have to go, I am old and will go to block. 

IF they would call it something other than a rainbow gathering – others are hijacking the name and it will be on the national new and will be a boast for all LEOS ---

Nobody ever gave a thought to pandemics, when we thought  Ignore rumors of cancellation.

This virus may even get worse.  Our elders are the ones who will get sick, and even now kids are getting something weird.

Our valuable people ,our elders are taking the hit. I ask for some respect and responsibility, try to thing what you are doing,

The original gatheirngs we would talk about things in circle, pass a stick, and we would auhmmm circle -we were there for prayer for nonviolence and this is not ok.

Please do not come to Idaho this year. 

Check-ins – 29 people on call – three hosts

Happy mothers’ days to all the moms.

I enjoy reading the notes and you have my permission

About being mad at each other, there are many people I have been mad at on this call.

A bunch of yawl.

But the common thread is that we all go reflect on what is going on and on our own words and actions. The more I look at myself the more I look it helps me soften my response to people. Sometimes I jump and I do not know if it is a past trauma with energetic signature.  It happened to me on FB today, I had to back up and EAT CROW!  Thanks for letting me be wrong, and not slamming me

You guys are the best teachers of character. I feel like I am always in school around , you hold my feet to the fire, I appreciate that. I want to say, I really like it if I saw more of us looking at people who we do not agree with—instead of talking with them behind their back, talk to them directly. I see this happening from both sides,  we are basing our decisions on info we have collected.  Maybe people need more information, maybe there are not idiots of purpose,  I am an idiot sometimes, but I get a different angle and think of it from that way and there are all kinds of ways to look at stuff.

Please look at each other from love in our hearts

I do not care if your cam e to rainbow as in an infiltration I do not care.  I love you.  I  think we can win over the infiltrators

I have never experience love and acceptance like this.

I learn more at rainbow by willing to be wrong.

Someone will have an idea, and another adds to the idea and then there is a big blossom of the idea  ------the Garden of Rainbow.

Song “ It is loving you was wrong I do not want to be right”

I have a new mantra – big breath, OPPS! 

I want to say, I am tired of how I see the world and treating people that have less and I really vibed with the sister who spoke about coming from the heart. If everyone could be humbler, there would be more love in the world.

We are all hear for each other, and I love you all.

We have decided our drum circle will be discouraged and the annual picnic also should be postponed in Philly.  WE do not know how to invite you how to not be there. With humble love in our heart, we request that you to not show up. And of course, there are people that are not a happy about that.

Just trying to keep my head on straight. Not moving too much.

Naps are lovable!  I am embracing my inner cat. Lot of love for people there

The voice of the lightline stands in solidarity with postponement – safety for all – because we know how we are all interconnected.

We are like a tree – roots of those who have been there forever and then we have leave – new leaves, buds and sometimes they are there for just the season, we will remember them for their glory. 

I offer my humble brokenness, and we hope each and every one of you- your friends and all are well. And bathed in the loving light of creator. I am sorry , I love you , please forgive me.

This is interesting time to be here, and I appreciate being here  -- time is filled with learning and experience I would never get anywhere.

Ohio – it is a big deal,  in quarantine – lots of handwashing and it is going to get sketchy. 

Thanks for the entertainment and wise words, and laughter.

Sheriff in 2001, Idaho, now running for county commissioner. 

Time for little kids to check in:

We love you.

Good night

I am grateful for how much I am learning about love and tolerance and care. I am so excited to be able to grow with this family and hold this space for the family.

Someone brought up conf calls are fun. Let’s do it again. I agree. A new frontier!

What specifically is going on – I have found myself focusing on my fears, and I feel spirit telling me to focus on my desires – unity and crossing over the fear and into the wind. We need to have faith, it is going to be alright (not ok). We are doing the right thing and we need to keep doing it.

We need visualizing what we want.

Thanks for letting me be in the space with you.

I’m really enjoying the virtual gathering on FB – we pretend to be at a gathering, and are thinking of doing some skill share on de-escalation , mental health emergencies and other things.  Looking forward.

Anyone else want to check in – 3 hosts and 37 people on call

Most of the people I know wear masks and is taking the virus seriously, I am happy with that.

Things are pretty good – good spirits.

I live in a college town.  I realize how lucky we were that the students were on spring break when this hits.  Now, many of the students are back to pack up stuff and they are not wearing mask and I feel it puts our community in danger.  It did bring home for me how important it is for me to stand in solidarity with postponing the gathering.

WE are theoretically opening in the 15^th. And no one I know is willing to go out.  The levels of the virus have gone down because they are testing the wastewater.

I do not think it is good to take the virus and bring it around the country.

Just going to sit here and listen, I appreciate it.

I have been enjoying the quiet times. Although, right now, it would be nice to be with other people!

I am helping out at a local foodbank and kitchen. I enjoy the pretend rainbow FB page.  I am thinking of the postponement  -- I am in support of.

There is a lot of networking being done, good connections, we are building a stronger network for each other. Maybe this time will help us build and bring back the old school ways – more care and compassion. 

These calls are wonderful. I feel like we are listening to old time radio shows.  This would be good to keep going once a week or so, even next year and on for support.

Poem:

Japanese Monk

I did not see one thing on my trip

But I breathed

What I breathed was time.

JOKE:

(it might be bad)

A conspiracy theorist, I will have a corona with lime.

I am here.  Still doing all right

Always FREE on the radio – MUTINY RADIO.FM out of SF – we have TUESDAYS 4-6 Pac --- always free style theme show! 

A reading…

It is to good family. I love listening . I am so impressed and happy.  You express such knowledge about things.  I think we are all pretty close to how we feel. The brother that spoke early on said much that I agree with.

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This call is making me feel really good. I am just going to listen.

I am gonna just listen, as well.

Took time to say hello to brother that they had not seen in a long time.

Many of us believe that there will be a shit show, and if they are not going to listen, and steal our name – they are going to put their name on the event.  And they will probably not clean up. The USFS will document this, and spread it. WE need to make some contingency plans regarding cleanup—how will we see how cleanup gets done after this rogue gathering?

The fun topic is the 2020 shit show, it does not need our full focus right now, I would like to focus with what we are going to do instead. 

WE need to pull things together – for the travelling kids, is that a real problem.  What is the scope of that problem?

As for cleanup, we need to figure our how that will be safe.

There is a tradition of only making consensus on the land, and how are we going to reach consensus.

We usually council on the land – eye-to-eye – we have had conference calls regarding location of conference calls – precedent that we have reached consensus by phone before.

This time last year, I was driving around the woods.  Sorting kitchen gear.  Hang out, do potlucks, go talk on the phone lots.  Lots of phone about gathering.

We reached lots of consensus on the phone last year.  Locations for scout and spring council were reached on the telephone.  I would like to see a phone consensus for the light line that I update, and maybe lightlines could send the same message.  A 30-60 second spiel that could go on light lines.

I wanted to take a moment – put out into the universe –one visualization in the most positive light.  Maybe there will be somethings that

Whatever happens that it ends with the highest good by the all. Guided by love and light, and whatever higher power you feel exists. I see a few people that feel passionate about following through on vision council making the away to Idaho taking all safety protocols, I see them arriving meeting with minimal local travelers and a handful of other who find themselves there, I see them all upholding the highest standards of safety.  They will maintain a distance. For the cops this is just a holding space for people who did not have any place to go. With love as an overarching  theme – but not rainbow in the name. I see travelers finding safe places.  I see our family holding the safety of the world in our highest.  Regard.  I see us with a new restored appreciation for each other and for what it means to be family, I see our online presence and able to refine the teaching and sharing of skills.  This is an evolving visualization I want to send out the most love and light  to the vision.

I think the sick people have less than optimum levels of vit D.  The sky used to be blue.

What have you done for Mother Earth today?

Lots of different camps:

The people who have made this happen –on their dime, they do not want to participate because they think that it is too dangerous.

Some people feel that our rights are being threatened.  And they feel we need to go to stand up for our rights.

The travelling kids need a place to go.

There are some that say, damn the old people, trying to tell us what to do  ---- they do not believe that the virus is real.

There are some people that feel that we need to go to spring council and do not feel strongly either way.

If people are thinking they are not represented well at councils.

We have to have radical inclusion.

Good evening!  I want to tell you we sincerely love you, sincerely appreciate all of the syllables put together, know that each are individual heart strings coming together.

Infrastructure, kitchens, and those who are experienced.  It should be made clear, very clear that we do not want to see a rainbow gathering this year. 

The levels of false accusations get worse the more you do.

We are a tribe of individuals. I encourage every admins so the world and the feds and all of us can see and know that we are not in support of the gathering in Idaho this year.

We are going to have people show up.

I love this family. I am a more peaceful person, and the rainbow family has made me that way. I want to protect this family until the day I die.

Short spiel for light lines  -- it is tough that we mention our conscience and broadcast concern.

Brainstorm  (only)  for light lines ---- This year 2020, we in love and humility out of concern for the public health call join on the fourth of July for world peace from sunrise to noon – and stand in solidarity with the others who are abstaining from gathering this year. -postponement --We need to act proactively, and make the statement go to wide audiences.

We are trying to not gather.  If this is put out, it will get out enough. 

Thank you. Loving you.

How are we going to find a site for them? 

Suggestion – Proposal for consensus the counter effort -this call is open to everyone, and there are some convoluted efforts out there – spring council and process 2019 SC there is a block on anyone who is spouting off about process and will respect what SC pos or neg as a consequence of decisions of decision made on the land in the result of a negative opinion the decision of next years’ gathering the

I am just going to be clear, I am getting off call, I called in because I was invited.  Every time I call in –I hear the same thing – the same people I have gotten 14 death threats, you can disagree

There are kitchens that are coming. People that are discouraging others you are doing a good thing –please continue to discourage people and we may be able to make it safer with less people. It will be an easier gathering. I am not going to mention the kitchens. 

This is about us as a family.  I get it that people don’t like that we are gathering. If you disagree please do not threaten others. 

3 hosts and 37 people on call

Lightline proposed ideas - -brainstorm:

This year in 2020 out of love and humility we invite all peaceful individuals to pray for world peace independently this July in 2020.  Standing in Solidarity with the health and safety in the name of world peace along with individuals, kitchens, and camps wishing to gather at a safer time.  Love and light.

Please do not interrupt others on this call. It is difficult to hold my to tongue.

Communication is key.

Song:

Earth my body, water my blood

Air my breath and fire my spirit.

People who are interested in finding a unified consensus and solution– that really stands in solidarity. 

When family lumps the silent ones, who have not chosen to speak –and lots of people are choosing to not speak they are choosing to wait. 

There are individuals that are listening or not listening that are responsible for amping them up and want the ones that are interested in looking bad.

I lost my temper the other night.  I am a calm and loving person.  I felt my anger was justified and I was able to deescalate myself – self soothing!  I am aware the intense rage reaction that some people have – I want you to take a very deep breath and listen……

Tx Gathering – No Guns, our sister, a  story  -- no guns in the church – a man wanted to drive into main meadow, and ran over No Guns, our sister  ---—injuring her badly, needed to be life flighted out.  The first words out of her mouth were “NO vengeance”.  From my heart, we are founded on the principle of nonviolence – we cannot go there. If we feed our anger the Buddhist say, we take not only ourselves to hell but  the other as well.  If we continually react with anger, do  let your opponent win – NO VENGENCE ------no guns.

I wanna be an echo, I do not align with any threats on this call, on FB or anywhere –I disavow myself from that.

Sometime the people that need love the most are the hardest ones to love.  Maybe the loudest antagonist needs the most love.  I challenge whoever or all of you, talk to them personally and try to make a connection --- instead of jumping on a band wagon.  Talk to them about other stuff, love on them. 

Love the unlovables.  This is good stuff – we have nothing to do but council.

I love to talk. I think we really need to get a count of people who really need a place to go.

Lots of people who travel and live their lives nomadic –they are still travelling and many of the community has not stopped travelling. Nobody cares and nobody is scared. We have had a steady stream of people through …

Proposed for the MI/WI lightline, folks talked about  the following suggested statement for lightlines:

This year in 2020 out of love and humility we invite all peaceful individuals to pray for world peace independently this July in 2020. Standing in Solidarity with the health and safety in the name of world pace along with individuals, kitchens, and camps wishing to gather at a safer time. Love and light.

I would like to thank everyone on this discussion. I appreciate everyone who is trying to spread the idea of postponement.

I want to first of all say, I am not happy about the gun thing and the rumors, beating it to death. There may have been this and that, it is not a real concern. But I do not know for sure. 

It would be nice if we could step back on rumors.

I do not have to gather, I do not have a need but I feel that there may be people there.

If ‘ignore rumors of cancellation” had never been a thing, then I would be like, ok it is postponed. But with that statement, I don’t know, I can’t turn my back – I don’t know. 

The ignore all rumors originally had to be stated because  of outside forces trying to shut the gathering down.  There are lots of people concerned.

There is no rumor of cancellation or postponement – we are now discussing it. It is not a rumor, it is a reality ----- This has been discussed every 48 hours --- this is the 29^th call.

I am standing in solidarity with loving the heck out of my family, and I am saying please stay away from me.

Hey, there are 27 people on this call – I dare some of you that have not spoken – to speak.

I put something out there to open some people eyes – I am happy to hear the communication I hear tonight.

It was so good to hear _____, on here.

I am hanging back and keeping quiet.

Silence.

Hey goodnight, thanks for moderating the call. It was good to listen.

Loving YOU!

I want to wish you all a beautiful evening. I look forward to hearing more of these conversations.